My previous job was 45 minutes away still not bad, is it? . Now my commute is 10-20 minutes, depending on the day and whether I hit the no traffic pocket or notfor some reason, if I leave at exactly 6:35, theres no traffic, so I just cruise, no traffic frustrations. I also wasnt driving it was two hours on the train so I could relax, read, knit, sleep, whatever, and it didnt feel like completely lost time. Three times now Waze has decided to reroute me (traveling from south Orange County north to eastern LA County area) away from the 5 FWY and up through Santiago Canyon Roadat midnight so that I can shave 2 minutes off my drive. Hes not wrong though. I hope your boyfriend becomes more supportive, and that it wont be much longer before you get a job with a commute that allows you to have a life. Not only are all houses money pits, my executive function issues are too severe for me to deal with the major responsibility of it all. Im putting in my notice during my 3-month review.No point leading them on, I know even if I stayed another month Id still quit in the end and its impossible to interview without calling out with these hours. I used to have a 15 mile LA commute that was never less than 45 minutes and would reach 2 hours at least a couple of tines a week. But some mornings I even freak out and ask my boyfriend to escort me to my car in the morning (445-5 am) if I had to park further away since we live near a dark park. I couldnt drive for 5 hours each day even if I didnt have to work too, and there was no traffic- and I *like* driving for fun! Experiment with routes and see if theres some alternatives that work for you. Probably? yeah crossing the 405 definitely deserves mention. Im sorry! However, I know not every long distance job has carpool buddies, so I understand that can be difficult. His job is flexible and would allow him to work from home at least 2-3 days a week and commute only when necessary, but if it comes up when Im interviewing in the city people always seem shocked because of the part of the country were in. She was trying to get out of the traffic. Anywhere outside that, bring supplies.). Those hours add up, and a few extra dollars isnt always worth a longer commute. I live in the DC metro area so long commutes are just the reality of my existence. How does it feel living this close to the FBI? So first of all, OP, you should not feel bad at all about having not realized how rough this would be. Many people commute 2hrs+ every day. I occasionally used to do a 60 mile return commute - that was way too much time out of the house - looking at 13 hours from leaving home to getting back. I moved from Brooklyn to California (Antelope Valley, high desert). You can absolutely take the M train from Bushwick to Broadway-Lafayette in under 45 minutes. Theres the official Commuter Express routes run by LADOT, but many of the far-flung suburbs have a special express bus service to get people to LA (Foothill Transit comes to mind). The best thing I could find to do was use alternate county backroads to get home once I got off the beltwayit doesnt get me home any faster but as I tell my husband, its the illusion of getting home faster because at least Im constantly moving and not killing my knees pumping the brakes! It would be one thing if you lived in Redondo or Fullerton, as there are side streets to get you there if the freeway is f*cked, but 405 just isnt worth it if youre not making a killing at your job. Haha, were not arguing! Today I'd have a ton of options, and if I was on a train I'd be more than fine. My commute is an hour, but changing etc adds on 30 minutes (before/after). The only saving grace was that a lot of this commute was by public transport (Europe is amazing), so on my morning 1.5-hr bus ride Id sleep, and on my evening 1.5-hr bus ride Id read. Plus, I live near a mall and practically next to a few grocery stores and gas stations, so traffic always sucks in the afternoons. Walking (due to rain or bike injury) takes me about 20-25 minutes. Incredibly poor condition of tracks? LA traffic is the worst. Then I took a job in Culver City my commute was 45 min-1 hr each way every day, but only 20 min with no traffic! It depends on your definition of L.A. A lot of people here consider L.A. the entire county, not just Los Angeles proper, and the county is huge. That was unsustainable, and eventually higher management began to push back against the practice too (the travel money was expense-able, and it was eating into our profits like woah). It might seem ridiculous for an intra-city commute, but 30 miles is pretty normal for inter-suburb or suburb-to-city commutes. Obviously, that's not ideal, but it wouldn't be forever. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, about 28 miles outside of the citymy husband commutes via BART (the subway) everyday and it takes about 45 minutes if its running on time which it never isif he were drive, it would easily be 90 minutes one way with traffic if there were no major accidents/road closures. (Think of Clueless, when Chers dad tells her Everywhere in LA takes 20 minutes. That is just for the city center of LA, like Hollywood to the Westside, on a good day. Some are cut out for it. I faux commuted to my target neighborhoods to make sure I could handle it. . I would rather sit in traffic because I want to see someone than be obligated to endure the stress on a daily basis. I do a 2 hour commute each way 2 days a week and it's not too bad, actually quite enjoy the time to myself to read a book. Also, the fact that youre stuck in traffic barely moving speaks to me too that would be a huge factor for me. To be fair, being ok with a 4 hr commute doesnt mean they dont value their lives & people in it. The commute from north/south might be different. Totally my own fault, I know. My last commute was 1.5 hours average, 1.25 on a good day, 2.5 on a terrible day and I loved that job. If Its an hour Id prefer to be walking or using public transit though hate being stuck in a car. I straight-up moved back to the Midwest because that wasnt how I wanted to spend my whole life, and it was a great decision. Im an Airbnb host. For almost 3 years my commute was 4 hours daily and another commute was 3 hours with a toddler buckled in the car seat I needed her day care to be close to my work because of emergencies. I have plenty of colleagues who do commute by car, and I literally have no idea how they have enough energy to put themselves through that daily. where is this, omaha? Exactly. The only thing about the train is it takes forever to get anywhere so, kind of like your 2-hour commute, but without you having to steer :). Yeah, unfortunately as an EA with two very needy execs theres no way I could do 7 am to 3:30 pm.. anything thats not those times will still have me sitting in 2 hour traffic every day. Other people make different choices, though, and thats completely valid. that isn't considered living close in the US. I live in a community that doesnt have a train or a commuter rail. Ill never go back to the stress of traffic jam commuting. (3) I have a boss who understand this and is reasonably flexible with me which I was only able to really get to after working for a little while. The answer to your letter is that you and your boyfriend are both righta 2-hour commute is normal, if on the extreme end of normal, and its also exhausting and bad for your health and nobody would think you were being unrealistic if you gave that as a reason for looking for a new job. Is it 1 hr, 15 mins? Id also like to +1 on the ability to search google maps for drive time estimates for your next position. (2) I take public transportation. Even then, traffic here was pretty heavy. My boyfriend lives in the Yucaipa/Redlands area and commutes 1.5 hrs to Anaheim every day and sees it as the norm, meanwhile I commute from LB to Anaheim (35-1hr) and its the max Im willing to do. Door to door including the walk from my parking 15 minutes. Weve got kids and paying 2k+/month for a 2 bed apartment anywhere within 45 minutes wasnt happening. My prefferred way south was always PCH. Reverso Context: Twice a week, I would commute to school for an hour and pick up the packet of lecture notes from the past few days.-"and pick up the packet" But I WILL say that is why most people choose to only look for jobs in their neighborhood, or move for work even within the city. I used to live in a shabby little cinder block house in the desert that a friend of mine dubbed the Serial Killer Shack, but it was cheap AF, 5-6 minutes from a job I loved, and I had no visible neighbors. If youre interested in going that route, Lunacycle is an ebike manufacturer based in El Segundo that you could visit. i dont do winter and dont do boring! You *could* get an electric car with the carpool lane sticker and take it when youre rising solo, but Im pretty sure those expire this year. Ive always had a long commute, until moving a couple of years ago cut my commute down to 20 minutes and going remote a few months ago cut it down to nothing. Ahhh!!! A big difference for the NYC person is that So Cal has lots and lots of space to sprawl (so we did pushing living spaces and working spaces further and further apart) and we are car obsessed. My 12-mile commute takes an hour. haha). If you are going to stay in this job consider moving much closer to your workplace. Im wondering if the next step in the tiny house craze is to have people in places like this live in an RV full-time? Uh, it totally depends on what your commute is the Bay Area too. If he doesnt know any different, it wont seem that bad. I live in the Bay Area too and 30 miles is never two hours well unless you go through SF. This was my issue a couple years ago commuting for grad school. All on Audible and all great! I started biking to and from work because it took me 30 mins regardless of what trafficwas . SO much better. I live in SW CT so the only reason my drive is doable is because I stay off (and away from) 95. Its like when youre filling up a container with liquid using a funnel if you pour too fast, itll overflow, even if there is still room in the container. I have plenty of coworkers doing just this. My current drive isnt bad at all, but it is certainly not as pleasant as riding the bus. Around noon, it takes about 30 minutes sometimes 20 if, for some reason, theres no traffic. This seems expensive and wasteful to me, both in terms of money and life. I need to have time to rest and a life, so Ive always applied for jobs that were a reasonable 30-minute commute away. 1hr 15 each way for me, but it is via train/walking. Honestly, the only person I knew who ever commute that far was an intern from a college town a couple hours away (and that shocked me that hed do that each day). Plus, I work weekends, which decreases the commute time considerably (plus the lights change immediately when you trigger them on Sundays, which helps a lot). I live in Federal way and when I was doing my grad school research in SLU it would often take longer to get from Westlake and Thomas to I-5 (~7 blocks) then from Downtown Seattle to Fed (~25 miles). Its also just far 75 miles one way which is definitely preferable to going 0-15 miles an hour for 30 miles. I live on the east side of LA with a 10-mile commute. Ive only done a 2 hr commute when I had an end in sight (I was living at home during an internship to save money, and the second time I was looking for an apartment so I was again living at home). should we give extra sick days to employees who cant work from home? (Spoiler, the answer is yesnot that anyone who has driven on congested hwys didnt already know this). (Okay, its usually 5-10 minutes to walk to the train/grab coffee, 30-45 minutes on the train to Hoboken, then either PATH to my office (~10-20 minutes, then walking 10 minutes) or Citibike (~5 minutes on light rail, ~15 minutes biking, 5 minutes walking). If you feel like you're wasting time on the drive, listen to an ebook or an educational podcast. I think its now an hour fifteen. Welcome to life in LaLaLand! I drove from southeast LA county to central OC for 7 years, about 35 miles each way. My boss now lives in Whittier, his commute is AT LEAST 2 hours on a good day. Get horror and comedy with My Favorite Murder! 30s, 53, female here. I remember interviewing in the Bay Area about seven years ago, and scouting potential living situations on the Peninsula, and found the worlds most amazing cottage in Pacifica. But I work remotely 2-3 days a week and when Im home, my quality of life is so much better than it would be if I lived in northern NJ or NYC. So once in a blue moon, I would hit them all, and when that happened my commute took 45 minutes. each way otherwise, it would be more than twice that, especially in the evening. Even if you ignore that a more or less direct route from (for instance) Huntington Beach to LA (30 miles) would take the OP through some pretty dangerous areas, like Compton, so cal drivers tend to be hostile to bicyclists in general, and the communities do not have well maintained or even designated bike lanes. So if I need to be at the office for an early meeting, or I need to pick up a kid somewhere, I try to allow at least an extra half hour, and more if the weather might be iffy. Google Mythbusters can a traffic jam form from a driver tapping their brakes. 3) Go to gym in the area you work before you need to be at work. Traffic is terrible, but using the Waze app can speed up your commute time and help you to avoid accidents, construction, etc. We live 35 miles south of he district. I had a coworker who did Pasadena Playa Del Rey. My 10.5 mile commute from Oakland to SF is faster than the 4 mile commute on Muni from my bfs place to my office. Im sorry! I lold! This move added 15-20 minutes each way to our commutes, but it cut our rent in half and got us a bigger apartment. Nuts are a healthier way to snack than some other poor choices I couldve made. Theres also a direct bus route that gets me there in about 45 minutes. I walk home from work when its nice out (prefer not to walk there so I dont end up all sweaty when I arrive at the office if its hot out) and it is so wonderful and soothing. Did the research note distance? There are weird people in the train sometimes, but theyre no worse than weird train people in other cities. I used to commute on public transit and it took me 1.5 hours (on a good day, 1 hour 10). Ive ridden the train about a dozen times from LB up to downtown around 5ish (to go to Staples center) and its always been fine. Even if no one else is doing, for example, a 1/2 hour commute by train, she should do it if it works for her. I live in the Philly burbs and commute via public transit into Center City. Drive to bus station. The weather in LA is not that great; San Diegos is much better IMO. Good luck! The rest of the year would probably be fine weather-wise! This is my current reality. once you get west of downtown LA), the worse it gets as well. Like the OP, Im a former New Yorker, and my 45-minute subway or bus commute felt like nothing because I didnt have to be so engaged. Driving would be too stressful. You may want to think about this for your next position! He had to take the 580 through the mountains to get to Fremont, which is a total bottleneck so it always sucked. One of my coworkers lives in Simi Valley and commutes to Pasadena daily. Your boyfriend can move to you this time. Mr. Town used to live in Atlanta and would like to move back (family), but now, having gotten used to our level of traffic and commute, it is going to take a lot for us to actually get back there. Its glorious. 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